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498A

by: Sunny
at: Tue, Jan 10, 2006 10:56 PM [Flag]

Are you guys out there about to marry, aware of the 498A section of the IPC, where
the girl has to just walk to the police station and without any problem lodge a dowry
complaint against her inlaws and husband, claiming mental torture and harrassment.


The next minute you know your entire family is rounded up and hurled with handcuffs
into the police van and jailed.

Girls you dont laugh, you have brothers and guy
relatives too, it could happen to them.

Lets discuss on this stupid and moronic
law which has been tormenting 10's of 1000's of people like me who have not done
anything and are still stuck.


by: suman
at: Thu, Jan 12, 2006 10:37 AM [Flag]

hey sunny, why are you thinking like this? no one will go and complaint without any
reason and also each and every law has got its own value and reason dont be silly man


by: SS
at: Thu, Jan 12, 2006 12:22 PM [Flag]

Empathizes to Sunny for having gone thro this mess and Suman this is for real this
has been happening. Girls for the sole motive of Money or the best reason known to
them have been misusing the LAW in their stride and harassing. This section(498A)
though introduced for the benefit of the Women being tortured and harassed for dowry
can visit any Police station either at her In-laws place or at her Parental place and
can lodge this complaint - this is as simple as ordering a Pizza!
Let’s consider
this section proves to be beneficial for 90 % of the Female population and rest 10%
misuse this section. However the need of the hour is to amend the law which also
takes effective steps to save the Lives and families of that 10% innocent people. As
it’s better to let the culprits scot-free then the INNOCENT getting PUNISHED.
YES
THE LAW SURELY NEEDS AMENDMENTS…



by: Suresh
at: Thu, Feb 16, 2006 08:55 PM [Flag]

This is the reply by the minister !!!!!


GOVERNMENT OF INDIA

MINISTRY OF HUMAN
RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT
MINISTRY OF 73
RAJYA SABHA
UNSTARRED QUESTION NO 2698
TO BE
ANSWERED ON 22.08.2005


AMENDMENTS TO DOWRY PROHIBITION ACT .


2698. SHRI
ABU ASIM AZMI
AMAR SINGH


Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT
be pleased to state:-


(a) whether Government are aware that section 498-A of
the Indian Penal Code enacted to prevent harassment to women for dowry is being
misused by women to harass their in-laws;

(b) if so, whether Government propose
to amend the Dowry Prohibition Act so as to avoid its misuse;

(c) if so, the
details thereof and by when, if not, the reasons therefor; and

(d) whether it is
also a fact that complaints against the in-laws and their family members are
registered in the police stations even after lapse of ten or more years of the
marriage and if so, the reasons therefor?


ANSWER


MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRIMATI KANTI SINGH)

(a) National
Commission for Women (NCW) has informed that there is no statistical data available
to prove that Section 498 A of the Indian Penal Code (IPC) is being misused by women
to harass their in-laws.

(b)&(c) Does not arise.

(d) In terms of Section 498
A of the IPC, if a person being the husband or the relative of the husband of a woman
subjects her to cruelty, he can be held guilty of offence under the said Section.
Subjecting the woman to cruelty at any time during the marriage is culpable under
this Section.


by: twinkle
at: Tue, Feb 21, 2006 11:56 PM [Flag]

hi .......god the word dowry is such a menace ...but it exists ..becoz we dont do
anything against it ......but me ...i hv decided my kids ..they will marry who ever
they want ....and ...no dowry ...infct a wedding in the temple with close frnds n
relation and a gala reception if the kids want it ..........cheers to the next
generation ..the future looks bright !


by: parmod
at: Sat, Apr 29, 2006 05:46 PM [Flag]

hi
the hon'ble high cort of delhi also feel misuse of this section of law in most of
cases. the fate of law is same as that of reservation policy. INTENTION IS GOOD BUT
WAY OF IMPLEMENTATION ---- WELL GOD WILL HELP THE SOCIETY. still it is out of reach
of most deserving one as our traditional values restrct us.


by: ABC
at: Fri, May 19, 2006 05:32 PM [Flag]

True, this is one of the most abused legislations in Indian History. It is true that
without any proof you and your entire family will get arrested as even the Lower
Judiciary thinks that the statement made by the girl is the gospel truth. To rub
there is one more section in I.P.C. which is effectively/maliciously used by
unscruplous females. Out of 50 Bail applications in each of the lower courts in New
Delhi at least 30 relate to 498A/406. Despite the blatant abuse of this law, it is
really sad that judiciary can't see it. Even the higher judiciary has closed its
eyes. BEWARE MEN!!!!!!!!!!It can happen to you also. BEWARE WOMEN!!!!!! This law may
affect you also as sisters/mothers/or relatives of the bridegroom. So don't think
that it is only the men who are targets. It is sad that the law is heavily loaded
against men.


by: Uday
at: Thu, Jul 20, 2006 12:15 PM [Flag]

Like ,dowry there are other legislations like rape(IPC), maintainance allowance to
divorced lady9Cr. PC) are one sided . It should be applicable both ways. which is
not.


by: ayana
at: Sat, Aug 5, 2006 04:24 PM [Flag]

It is unfortunate that indian families are in breaking situation by 498a. NCW is not
taking interest to take out that Law, it feels it achieved great to help women,
inturn it supports to break the indian marriages and families and pushing them to non
integrative minds among all men & women of India. Thanks to Our Govt and the great
NCW who are liberally allowing this law to commit blunders knowingly to harass men
and women of India.


by: Pragati
at: Thu, Sep 7, 2006 08:05 AM [Flag]

My brother or my parents have not taken or demanded any dowry from my bhabhi, but i
am scared that I will have to be jailed along with husband and my school going kinds
if that bitch and selfish girl will put dowry charges against me. I am really scared
because my family has never been to court and police and we are very respected
family. This stupid law is ruining many girls lives. Please help me 9352736000, my
family is really into pain and tears due to this false law and my bhabhi. I dont want
to go to jail I have not done anything wrong in my life.


by: A father
at: Wed, Nov 1, 2006 08:28 PM [Flag]

I feel very sad about 498A and Domestic violence Acts which were appeared to be
created to harass Indians. I am afraid there will be disurbance in the society due to
these acts. Country's integration is nothing but united familiy members of India,
but where as these two laws are undoubtedly seperating the unity of families.
Husbands and wives will be on the streets in near future and no body will be happy in
their families. Women Organisations- please think what you are doing is correct
and benifeted to society(combination of all citigens and children)?. For God sake
donot disintegrate the families of India. Do not interfere in husband and wife
problems, they themself will solve the problems with elders in society. When you are
in India be like an indian and follow the beatiful indian family culture(as per
relgion) and donot be so advanced to reach to ancient stage of clothless wearing life
of eve on the name woman liberalisation. I feel very sad how nasty photos are shown
in papers about women wearing minimum clothing(foreign ladies and some of indian
models), I surprise why that there is no woman or woman writer opposing this
degradation of women staus of our country. Instead further blind argument to
provide women economic liberalisation. This will lead a woman status to a
unrepairable face value. I feel it is very jiddy attitude of some women who donot
have any goal for the benifit of society. Please visit once to civil courts and
criminal courts and observe how many false cases are filed against their husbands and
in Laws and how these innocent women are feeling aloof in the society along with
small kids. women are being encouraged by these laws to file cases against their
husbands and thereafter, these organsations will not help them after ensuring the
friction created between husband and wife. Whhhaaat you will get out of it?. Please
look after your brothers, and elders by not encouraging these two harmful ACTS on the
name euality.


by: Priya
at: Wed, Nov 22, 2006 02:20 PM [Flag]

The surprisiing part of the same is this case is not withdrawable. There are many
girls who get into this thinking they will try to have their clutches on their
husbend. But unknowingly it becomes a blunder and finally they end up losing
relationship (may be at a cost of getting few bucks).

Finally the losers here
will be the kids.

Anyhow this kind of laws should never be treated as criminal
cases and should be taken into Family courts is what i strongly beleive.

- Priya


by: Anjali
at: Sat, Nov 25, 2006 08:48 PM [Flag]

There are many families who are suffering due to the harassment by women misusing the
provisions of this law. I have seen families who live with constant worry and threat
just to avoid their social image. The marriage is by choice and is a foundation of
society, but getting out of marriage is such a woe and suffering, because of the laws
made by and for society. Why can't it be as simple as possible.
Can anybody name a
forum who are gathering the cases and representing to any agency like National
Commission for Women ?
I think it is the need of the hour.


by: Somesh Kumar
at: Tue, Dec 12, 2006 03:55 AM [Flag]

Hiii Sunny,
Me cent percent agree with you th girls misuse thr powers. I give
respect to girls bt i have seen tht most of thm misuse thr powers n thts y i dnt like
thm. This law shd be modified as many ppl r sufering n many have sufferd sue to this
law. The worst part of this law is this tht if smone is culprit thn it will include
his whole family including his married sis.


by: Abhed
at: Fri, Jan 5, 2007 05:45 PM [Flag]

Yes, the abuse of laws meant for safeguarding the women are resulting in extreme
hardships to not only women but even women. If this is not checked it will hit at the
fundamental institution of society - the family. Marriage - a custom meant to foster
a lifetime bondage - needs to be preserved, else there will be proliferation of
temporary relationships without wed lock (not even live-ins) leading to severe health
and progeny problems.


by: 498a_Crusader
at: Tue, Mar 13, 2007 05:06 PM [Flag]

check all LAW resources about Dowry law (498A) on

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They
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by: Tania
at: Tue, Mar 13, 2007 11:26 PM [Flag]

For centuries men and their families have tortured women .There was no judicial
system to ask them why they do so?.
The woman had to tolerate all
crimes...-> dowry harassment,sexual abuse by husband and inlaws,mental and physical
torture,attempt to murder,machine to give birth to innumeraable children etc.
Now
that women dont have to suffer many of these things are men feeling less manly than
their forefathers????or they are scared of woman power?
Its now that human Right
Awareness groups have made it possible to have such laws in existence.
U are
thinking of those 1% men who are suffering but what about those innumerable women who
have suffered all these years and are still suffering inspite of such laws being in
place.DO WE atleast CREATE ANY BLOGS FOR HELPING SUCH WOMEN??????
COMMMON MAN they
could be ur sisters too..And just look into ur own houses how ur fathers or
grandparents have torchered ur mom ,however great they may seem to u ,if u look into
ur mother's heart u will feel the pain of some sort of harrassment. (barring a few
exceptions when the case is other wy...u need to judge)

Women have been treated
mercilessly as slaves and they were never given any value.WHAT IS THEIR
MISTAKE?????that they are a woman?They have to get married forcibly inspite of being
aware of this and if not society will torcher them and other men will misuse them

Exceptions are there but they are exceptions not a norm
Atleast since this law has
come men will get scared A BIT.They need to get it into their psyche firmly that
women are not to be treated like this ,they deserve some respect...they are human
beings too and half population of the world
Those men who have behaved properly and
so have their families will rarely have to face such situations and if they havent
done GOD will save them if GOD was saving those innocent women all over our country
who are being torchered.Atleast some men will improve due to this law

Imagine if u
are going to stay at someone else's house leaving ur own and u are harrasses/ragged
in every possible way ...what will ur state be..????
Dont quit the thought in a
moment ...i know its difficuilt to imagine urself in that situation ,but do it
consciously for 30 min and tell then ,feel those burns on ur body and feel evry sort
of blackmailing and abuse.
Speak with those women who have suffered and then tell
about those handful innocent men...


The concept of"INNOCENT MAN " Is a most of
the times a new way of the chalu but devilish men who pretend to be gandhian infront
of the society and are hitler in their homes.!!
The moment they feel they cant
control the woman ,they get scared..I dont understand wher has the masculinity of the
great courageous indians gone that they need to feel like a man by controlling a
woman and that too they need the help of the entire family to do that ?

Why cant
indian men come out of their soo called concept of indian culture. which is an
absolutely wrong interpretention of our great but now extinct original indian culture
where women had lot of respect.Why cant the educated indian men stop behaving like
the uneducated???Why cant they learn to love and stop being apprehensive??

I know
i have hurt male egos of many readers .I come from family with well behaving men ,but
generally if u look around in 90% cases woman is the sufferer.
Guys we need to bring
humanity in our culture So initially some innocents will be victimised .
Best way is
think a lot ,inquire properly before marriage about the woman and her family...not
economic status rather the mentality .Meet her several times and her friends too .Get
an idea of her moods and think if she can really adjust in ur family and behave well
witrh her .Help family and her to gell well ...its ur responiblity
Give her the
liberty to tell abt her ex bfs and accept it,check if it can still have impact on ur
future and she may forget abt her ex if u give her love and assuarance .
Women
normally fall in love easily and so if u are good to her she will love u too and if
she loves she can tolerate but then to test her love dont do her harm as she may get
scared and complain to police!!

If its made it too difficuilt for women to
complain the law will be useless.Because as such very few women dare to come out and
complain abt inlaws and hubbys- these are mostly the educated and independant from
revengeful families who could take disadvantage but its not so easy to make a false
allegation.If the girl wants to remarry and its known that she has made a false
allegation , no one is gonna marry her .So what will she gain ??Just a
revenge...??Men will be scared to marry a girl even if they know that she has
suffered a lot but she had the strenth to fight ...and went to police to take revenge
r get justice they will prefer to not marry her as finally they are indian men...!!
"Ideal bhartiyya nari is tolerant!!!"
can u get the logic...???

There may be
exceptions when she has a bf.....!!!!

Its not easy for a woman to stay alone and
only in big metros we find single women staying peacefully(??).When a law is made the
entire population of the country is taken into consideration not the handful .We cant
have a seperate education system for the very intelligent or dumb and we cant make
seperate laws for everyone..but still the court takes into consideration the social
background and mentality and religion and what are the norms in those type of people
before they reach a conclusion .

And hey dont beleive all men who say that their
wife has made false allegations of dowry as its nearly impossible to find a man who
accepts that he has done so...!!
He must be a gunda or may be a regretting
soul..!Rare specie

Till the time our culture gives better status to women such
laws should be in place ,let the handful of men suffer so that others are forced to
change sick behaviour.For the men who are behaving with humanity with their wifes and
ensuring that their parents do it too ,lets wish that their wifes dont trap them into
such things and lets hope that some sort of psychiatric methods come in place to do
LIE DETECTION!!!

There is justice in the court of god and beleive it ..!
have a
nice time!!!


by: maya
at: Tue, Apr 3, 2007 03:37 PM [Flag]

bravo tania


by: Kumar
at: Thu, Apr 12, 2007 01:49 PM [Flag]

Tanya...Good presentation!! But still debate is necessary on the issue of INNOCENT
MAN. Will U raise the issue of Atrocities of Step mothers, who deny family love to
ones like me.


by: tania
at: Fri, Apr 13, 2007 11:38 PM [Flag]

yaa kumar ,i certainly agree .I am open to debate and i beleive no inocent man should
suffer as they are rare species and if its seen in society that they are fallling
trap to ssome nasty women ,other men will get an excuse to behave badly....It seems
"what happened to d sadashiv(....!)...he was so nice with his wife ...look at his
condition .These women should be kept in control..else we too will land up in this
condition" ...Fear guides people and fear controls them too ..So we dont want such
sadashivs to be an example .Its dangerous.As such the bad men hate good ones as they
make them realise they are bad and i good men suffer bad will get a feeling they are
right.So feminist groups should first protect these good men .I am not a feminist ..I
just feel that india will be make an improvement 1000 times more if we remove the
evil of domestic violence and women's dirty politics and men's ignorance and
helplessness in family front.......but only if each one becomes sensitive in this
matter .We need to criticise those imposing domestic violence and outcaste them .If
we outcaste such families hitting women esp d-in -laws they will lose all social fear
and continue to bahave badly .They may even move to another town .So solution to
improve ur neighbours is very difficuilt and we pple dont like to interfere nor do we
have time and we are not perfect ,so we can atleast be strong in our own families.Its
very diff to control prev generations but atleast gals and guys of this gen need to
take initiative to stop the inheritance of our bad culture of domestic violence..We
indians sound hypocrytes when we say we are peace loving country ...!we seem to
defend our impotency by such things.We need to atleast cause a revolution in our
homes ...each one ....and we should certainly go a step ahead to help and protect the
innocent men ...but yaa the debate needs to continue as everyone has diff
experiencesss......................


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